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Moderator Bai Yansong:
Hello audience friends, welcome to the live news 1+1.
Let’s take a look at a cartoon picture behind me. This cartoon picture is very popular these two days. When I saw this man just now, the camera in our studio had a good time and gave a classic comment, "This kid also faced a car accident in his life." How did this "car accident" happen? This cartoon comes from a real scene. At the scene of the car accident where 36 people were killed, his smile hit the angry front of the netizen, and the car continued to drive forward, becoming a substantive suspicion.
Look at this cartoon. He has such a big watch hanging on his left hand. Does this fit his identity? Where did it come from? Will there be corruption here? So this drama, like a series, began to be staged constantly, and today it has the latest plot. Let’s go back and see how this TV series started.
With a smile on his face and a watch on his hand, who is the hero in this crazy cartoon? What happened to him?
In the early morning of August 26th, a tragic car accident occurred on Baomao Expressway, killing 36 people. Besides a photo of the car accident itself from the scene of the accident, it also triggered a heated discussion among the public. In the photo, a man stood in front of the rear-end train with a smile, and his expression and posture were particularly dazzling in the face of a huge disaster. Finally, in the hot discussion, the information of this man in the photo was quickly searched out. He is Yang Dacai, the party secretary of the Shaanxi Provincial Administration of Work Safety. As the director of the Provincial Administration of Work Safety, why did he smile at the scene of the tragic car accident? On August 29th, Yang Dacai made his first public response to questions from all walks of life.
Voice source: Yang Dacai, Director of Shaanxi Provincial Administration of Work Safety:
At that time, we immediately rushed to the scene of the fire accident. At that time, I went to that place (the scene), and I was a big official. Their rescue agencies also accepted the traffic police comrades’ inquiries. After all, they were subordinates, and they were very nervous. Coupled with the northern Shaanxi dialect, I couldn’t hear clearly and spoke very roughly. I actually didn’t manage myself well, smiled and wanted to guide everyone to relax a little, so I relaxed myself.
However, sensitive netizens did not simply put their doubts on their smiles. They quickly found another focus, that is, the famous watch worn by Yang Dacai. Netizens quickly collected various activities and meetings that Yang Dacai publicly attended. Through the comparison of photos, it was found that Yang Dacai had more than one famous watch.
Weibo, a netizen who was certified as the founder and chief operating officer of a luxury website, said that he had consulted the watch industry. The five watches of Director Yang are world famous watches, the first one is a Rolex of about 65,000, the second one is an Omega of 35,000 to 40,000, and the third one is a Vacheron Constantin 18K rose gold case. Moreover, it is mechanical, and the market is estimated to be 200,000 to 400,000. The fourth one, the value of Omega is 30,000 to 40,000.
After explaining the smile, Director Yang had to explain his watch again. On August 29, he responded again that he had bought five watches for more than ten years, all of which were purchased with legal income. He has reported this to the discipline inspection department. The most expensive one is the Montblanc bought this year at a price of 35,000 yuan. At present, the Shaanxi Discipline Inspection Commission has set up an investigation team to question the outside world. The relevant person in charge said that the issues involved in the incident will be seriously and thoroughly investigated in a pragmatic manner. If there are violations of discipline or corruption, they will be dealt with seriously in accordance with relevant regulations. However, just as the investigation team was established, netizens also made new discoveries.
Netizens found his sixth watch, which is a famous luxury brand watch, and then the seventh, eighth, ninth and tenth watches appeared, and they are all world famous watches like the first five.
Bai Yansong:
To tell the truth, when I first saw him smiling at the scene of the car accident, I didn’t want to give him anger directly at once, because there was a high possibility of accidental injury here. Because, for example, if he stayed at the scene for more than two hours, there may be only a few seconds when his expression changed due to some circumstances, which was just captured by the camera or the camera, then will we accidentally hurt him? Or people’s expressions sometimes have a subtle change, or maybe. Therefore, such an anger was not immediately expressed.
In fact, the source of this photo was not aimed at his expression at first, but the reporter was shooting it, and now we are looking at the picture on this PPT. The one on the left is aimed at the scene of the car accident and wants to express a panoramic view. Where was he at that time? He was here, but in this really big photo, he didn’t stand out.
Next, I was pushed forward by netizens. He appeared when I got this picture. When I saw this picture, we might as well enlarge it again. This is it. My first reaction is still not his smile, but his stomach. For a long time, I have always felt that Chinese officials should live a healthier life and exercise more to show some incorruptible images. Just as our former leaders once said: Five looks are thin and fat in the world, and those five looks are fat, which easily makes people have some other associations. I really think this belly is a little big, and I also remind many of our officials to strengthen their exercise and give them a more incorruptible image. However, the next expression may not be instantaneous, but there will be some. However, when he walked forward, five watches surfaced. Fortunately, he quickly began to respond to the questions of netizens, which was also convincing, including the number of these watches. Moreover, in the past, when correcting some officials to wear watches, there was a huge price error. It may have been bought for thousands of dollars, but it was written into tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands by netizens. Moreover, it is difficult to distinguish between true and false here. Here, just talking, you may not like him very much, and this smile is really inappropriate, and he also came out to explain it to netizens. Maybe things passed, but things suddenly changed, and the sixth, seventh and eighth blocks appeared. At this time, you remember him.When he was communicating with netizens, he said that he only bought five watches. Is there any lying here? If there is a lying situation, what kind of problem is it if the official is dishonest? And whether this will really lead to Lenovo, whether there is corruption or other factors here, so it is correct for the Commission for Discipline Inspection to intervene in the investigation, and then continue to look at the development of this situation.
At 9: 00 pm on August 29th, Yang Dacai, a news reporter, specially registered a Weibo account and had an online interview with netizens. In an hour, Yang Dacai published 13 Weibo articles to answer the questions of netizens about his smile and watch.
"Excuse me, can you explain why today’s cadres are so easy to question, and netizens are harsh? Or something else? Or are there many problems with cadres themselves?
I think it is reasonable and normal to be supervised by netizens as a public servant. The reason why I was so concerned by netizens this time is because I am cautious. To be honest, when I first heard all kinds of criticisms and accusations from netizens, I felt very wronged, because this was not my intention.
However, the incident didn’t stop with Yang Dacai’s explanation. Just after he admitted that all five watches were bought by his legitimate income, a netizen named "Hua Zong lost his golden hoop" revealed the remaining six watches that Yang Dacai didn’t publicly admit.
Netizen Hua always lost his golden hoop:
In this micro-interview, he (Yang Dacai) explained that in the ten years of Gaoqu, he bought five watches one after another. From his written expression, it should be these five watches. I think this may be at least not what I saw.
Netizen Hua Zong lost his golden hoop and said that he had made a survey on the watches worn by some Chinese officials in public since last year, that is, in last year’s survey, Yang Dacai attracted his attention because of the large number of watches.
Netizen Hua always lost his golden hoop:
For example, director, mayor, or secretary, and then take these keywords. One is through the image search engine, you can see a lot of big photos. The second is on the website of the local government, because leading cadres will have some news reports when attending some public activities, and there will also be some big pictures. Coincidentally, when I was searching, the first thing that Director Yang looked like was that there were still a lot of watches, and there should be 11 watches worn back and forth.
It is precisely because netizen Hua always lost the six watches that were brought out by the golden hoop for Yang Dacai, which once again pushed the "Watch Gate" incident to another climax.
Netizen Hua always lost his golden hoop:
First of all, we should be objective enough. I don’t think anger can solve the problem. And I think officials should be encouraged to interact with netizens in a benign way. It is good for you to come out with many things. As long as you can explain the ins and outs clearly, netizens can understand it. The biggest anger of netizens lies in saying that, first, you don’t respond to what you are hiding, and second, you lie. This is a real root cause of the problem, or one. So I think this consciousness official should think about it.
Bai Yansong:
In this big scene photo of a car accident, a little one of him was quickly magnified by netizens. In fact, this came from a very normal mood of netizens. In the face of a big car accident in which 36 people were killed, everyone’s anger and sadness seemed to be unable to find an outlet, so his smile suddenly became an object of venting, but there is a possibility of accidental injury here, but when the situation enters the watch, this piece, especially when he said that he only bought five watches, now, We look at the images of these 11 watches, and netizens have listed them one by one. Is there still a misunderstanding here? It is also possible. For example, because this picture is not necessarily very clear, sometimes we just need to demonstrate it from a side or downward dial. Like me, we can’t understand it at all, which requires experts to carefully interpret it. Even experts may have the possibility of accidental injury. At this time, there is such a problem. I am afraid it is difficult to say clearly by relying on us or just relying on these pictures. This is precisely when the Shaanxi Provincial Commission for Discipline Inspection began to announce its involvement in the investigation, and everyone felt that it might be closer to the truth. In view of this, we would like to connect with Professor Li Chengyan and Professor Li of Peking University School of Government Management.
Professor Li Chengyan, School of Government Administration, Peking University:
Hello, Bai Yansong.
Bai Yansong:
When the General Commission for Discipline Inspection is involved in the investigation of such a matter, what are the starting procedures and basis?
Li Chengyan:
I think, as the director who is questioned by public opinion, such questions, of course, start with a smile and then pay attention to his watch. In this way, some questions are objective and clear. Therefore, in this case, the Commission for Discipline Inspection can accept such public opinion questions, and then it can be clear that the object to be investigated this time is our public opinion question, the director of the Safety Supervision Bureau. In such a case, it can be put on file, and after the case is put on file, it can be officially sent to carry out. I think the process of this investigation is very simple, that is, take out your watch. How many watches are there? You have to be honest and frank. You can’t tell lies there, five dollars, six dollars and ten dollars. Besides, where did this watch come from? Did you buy it yourself? If you bought the invoice, where did you buy it? Did you buy this watch abroad? Did you go abroad during this period? I don’t think these surveys are difficult. If all these can be verified during the investigation, I think this is the most meaningful. The significance lies in the first place. If you bought it yourself, well, we can also give a clear explanation to the public opinion. If not, it was given by someone else, where did you buy it, how much it was given to you, and what it was for? If you ask this question, continue to ask. Public opinion can be questioned completely, and the result of questioning is either innocent or problematic. I think the investigation of discipline inspection and procuratorial work will definitely come to the bottom at such a key point.It will definitely give the netizen supervisor a clear explanation, which is the most important key point and the most important and meaningful place.
Bai Yansong:
Professor Li, how many possibilities are there for transformation after such a regular commission for discipline inspection has intervened in the investigation?
Li Chengyan:
There may be three situations in this transformation. One possibility is that after investigation, it is found that these problems are very clear, that is, he bought them himself, which is very innocent.
Bai Yansong:
And it is legal income.
Li Chengyan:
I bought it with legal income, and there are receipts everywhere, and there are proofs. Some people prove that he bought it himself.
Bai Yansong:
This is a possibility.
Li Chengyan:
This is one possibility, and the other possibility is a vague possibility. What is vague? It is that the number of watches is not clear, and the results of the investigation are not confirmed. In addition, some problems will be found during the investigation. I don’t have a receipt, and I can’t tell where I bought it. It is also a possibility that I will finally get a vague state. The third possibility is to make a clear confession, indicating that this watch must have come from an unknown source, and it is beyond your property income to afford such watches. What should you do? You must tell clearly where it came from, who gave it to you and why. This is very clear, and there is a problem. As a discipline inspection and procuratorial department, it should also give a response to public opinion supervision after the investigation is completed.
Bai Yansong:
Thank you very much, Professor Li, for giving us a detailed analysis. In fact, the last thing you want to see is the second possibility, that is, everything is a vague process, and finally it will go away. Of course, there may be a fourth possibility, that is, there is a possibility of accidental injury. Because you haven’t seen it clearly, the valuation is too high, or what, then you should clearly present this result to the public. Fortunately, now this matter is no longer an evasive or vague one, or it can be ended with nothing, because everyone is staring at it. If such a careful netizen can list the pictures of his 11 watches one by one, how can he not be careful and patient to wait for the final real result to appear in front of us? How will this matter continue to develop? What is more important is whether we can associate with such a thing and how to make the official’s property declaration public.
Just doing an interview program, the leading guests silently took off their watches before opening the way. Today, this Weibo from a media practitioner was specially distributed for more than 4,400 times. There is no doubt that behind the high degree of attention is the influence brought by Yang Dacai who was involved in the whirlpool because of his watch. In fact, Director Yang is not the first official who was caught by everyone through public photos.
Zhou Jiugeng:
I have repeatedly stressed that you should not bargain sharply to disturb our Jiangning real estate market.
At that time, Zhou Jiugeng was the director of Jiangning District Real Estate Bureau in Nanjing. This bold remark shifted the focus of everyone’s attention. Some careful netizens found that the cigarettes that Director Zhou usually smoked were not simple. They were the highest in the Ninth Five-Year Plan with a market price of 1,500 yuan, that is, the network search was rapidly launched. In the public activity pictures, not only cigarettes, Zhou Jiugeng wore Rolex, Vacheron Constantin, Tito and other foreign famous watches on his wrist, but also Cadillac cars were quickly made public. After 18 days, Zhou Jiugeng was dismissed for making inappropriate remarks and consuming high-end cigarettes with public funds. Finally, the Commission for Discipline Inspection of Jiangning District of Nanjing intervened in the investigation, and the life of Shuangkai and partial Zhou Jiugeng changed dramatically. On October 10th, 2009, Zhou Jiugeng, the fifth court of Nanjing Intermediate People’s Court, was sentenced to 11 years’ imprisonment for accepting bribes. Famous watches and cigarettes made Zhou Jiugeng have nowhere to hide on the Internet, and officials attracted public attention because of their famous brands, and Zhou Jiugeng was not the only one.
On November 29th, 2011, Liao Weizhong, deputy head of Shuangliu County, Sichuan Province, was also questioned by netizens because of his inspection of a pair of Italian luxury brand leather shoes with a value of five or six thousand yuan. On November 30th, Liao Weizhong was interviewed by the media and clarified that the famous brand shoes in the photo were a birthday gift from his wife, and the price did not reach the online legend of more than 6,000 yuan, but around 4,000 yuan. After the explanation, the voice of doubt gradually disappeared.
Bai Yansong:
In fact, if we want to uphold the spirit of the law, now we can only use the suspicion of the director of the safety supervision bureau, including the accusations against his 11 netizens, which means that he still has to be innocent, and we must look at it this way, but what we saw in the short film just now has become a fact, and finally he has become a criminal and has been sentenced to relevant punishment. To tell the truth, if we have to rely on human flesh search, including the careful observation of netizens, netizens always have their own methods, but others also have their own countermeasures. For example, since the incident of high-priced cigarettes came out, many practices have changed. Some people hide high-priced cigarettes with cigarette cases, some people bother to leave high-priced cigarettes with their secretaries and take them out again, and some people just endure that he does not smoke high-priced cigarettes in public. Including leather shoes and so on. In the future, it may be that the watch will gradually fade away from the sleeves of officials in public, and he will wear it again on other occasions. Therefore, if it is difficult to institutionalize and fight corruption only by this, it comes to mind that the declaration of officials’ property, which has been implemented for so many years, is within the party, including the public hope that it can be known to the public. Why can’t it be delayed? We see that in 1994, the Eighth the National People’s Congress Standing Committee (NPCSC) officially included the property declaration law in the legislative plan, and in 1995, the general offices of the General Office of the Central Committee of the CPC and the State Council jointly issued the "Regulations on the Income Declaration of Leading Cadres at or above the County (Division) Level in Party and Government Organs" and so on, but to be honest, it is not particularly effective now.
Next, we will connect with Wang Quanjie, the representative of the 10th National People’s Congress. Hello, Mr. Wang.
Wang Quanjie, deputy to the Tenth National People’s Congress:
Hello, Yansong.
Bai Yansong:
It’s been more than ten years, and it seems to be much slower than everyone expected. Do you think it’s because it’s too difficult?
Wang Quanjie:
This matter should be in China, there are some difficulties.
Bai Yansong:
What’s the difficulty?
Wang Quanjie:
The difficulty is that the interests involved are too large. It is difficult for our country to form an open and transparent society and an open and transparent government. If we suddenly want to achieve openness and transparency in some aspects, this resistance is very great.
Bai Yansong:
But of course, you have the same expectations for us. It’s definitely impossible not to move forward in this way. In particular, we must keep pace with the times, and the needs and expectations of the people will become stronger. In fact, in the report of the 17th National Congress of the Communist Party of China, you also have many expectations for this, which makes you think how to really realize these expectations, including some practices, including some laws and regulations?
Wang Quanjie:
To realize the realization, we must first publicize the declared property, and the declaration is actually internal supervision. Only by publicizing the property can we expose all our property to the masses. Everyone has always said that the masses have a discerning eye. You just talked about 11 pieces of Yang Dacai watches that can be found by the masses. What if it is publicized? Only two of the three houses are publicized, and the other house is sure to be found by everyone. Therefore, publicity is an act of mass supervision, people’s supervision or citizen’s supervision. If it is declared, it will always be an internal supervision. This effect has been carried out for 20 or 20 years, and it has hardly worked. I think the key now is to start from the perspective of publicity.
Bai Yansong:
Mr. Quan Jie, I’m sure there is another one here. We must be constructive and push it pragmatically. Do you have any good ways to reduce some people’s worries, but really let this system go straight and play a huge role in our lives? With the increase of age, I also know that it seems too idealistic to realize many things overnight, but do you have any good constructive ways to push it to this road?
Wang Quanjie:
Originally, I proposed some measures at the Third Session of the Tenth National People’s Congress. Later, the Tenth National People’s Congress proposed three times, and each time I proposed some very specific measures. Now we have great difficulties. Can we start with a certain level of cadres, instead of starting with the whole people, starting with the top provincial level and above, and slowly pushing the pilot down? Another thing is that we can also adopt a concession policy, starting with new cadres. If one is a newly elected cadre, One is cadres who want to be promoted. From this aspect, we can even make concessions to cadres over the age of dozens. We will not ask again. We would rather make these sacrifices in exchange for a Millennium plan and a century-long plan.
Bai Yansong:
The old environment for the elderly and the new way for the new, but it has opened the way of sunshine and transparency.
Wang Quanjie:
This is a last resort.
Bai Yansong:
But society can also benefit from it.
Wang Quanjie:
Yes, that’s the truth.
Bai Yansong:
Ok, thank you very much for your advice and constructive suggestions. I hope that we will continue to promote it together when there is an opportunity in the future. Thank you.
The last sentence is that I believe, and I am willing to say that I believe, because now with the social mood and expectation, we have to do a lot of things, but we should do better. As for going back to Weibo to ask for evidence, Weibo to supervise and network to supervise, in fact, they will also have their advantages. Although people may find some policies, for example, Zhang Tianwei said: Weibo’s supervision is not the first time, nor the last time. It may make problem officials hide their watches, luxury cars and houses, and it is impossible to really put an end to corruption. However, if Weibo’s power turns the ill-gotten gains of corrupt officials into watches that they dare not wear, luxury cars that they dare not drive, and houses that they dare not live in, then the wealth that cannot be seen in the light will have little practical significance, and the greed of officials may be curbed to some extent.
I hope, in fact, what is more important is that after all, the network Weibo provides a channel of supervision for all people.
